Jon and Drew are joined by Matthew Cassinelli of Workflow/Shortcuts, YouTube and Supercomputer fame. Drew and Matthew started off as internet friends, and before long, they were getting (almost) busted taking illegal drone photos. Meanwhile, Matthew worked on the great app Workflow, which was acquired by Apple and became Shortcuts. Matthew has tons of internet friends now, especially in the so-called “Apple community.” What’s that like? It’s a mix. Some of it is everything he loves about technology and community. Other parts are harder, especially since his level of social media attention changed suddenly. But Matthew is real and upfront about stuff like that. He makes a great case that being your real self online is the way to be.